About Our Guest

Megan Miller is a professional speaker, creator & host of Attention to Intention podcast and on a mission to help high-performing go-getting professionals detox off the drug of achievement.

Over the past 15 years, Megan’s laser focus on climbing the corporate ladder resulted in a successful career as a Sales Executive in the Hospitality industry, managing a portfolio of 150 hotels & $1B in revenue.

Raised by a single mother in rural Pennsylvania, inflicted with a speech impediment and feeling like she had to fight for her seat at the table, Megan clawed her way to the corner office & when she landed there, she realized that she was empty, unfulfilled, and addicted to the drug of achievement.

This week on the Chasing Financial Freedom Podcast, we’re discussing the bouncer in your head.

You know, the one who lets in all the wrong people and keeps out all the right ones? Well, this week, we’re talking with Megan Miller, a professional speaker, creator & host of the Attention to Intention podcast, and on a mission to help high-performing go-getting professionals detox off the drug of achievement.

We’ll be asking Megan how we can start making decisions based on our innermost values instead of what society tells us is important—and how that will improve our lives.

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Why the Bouncer in Your Head is Letting in the Wrong People with Megan Miller

[00:00:00] Ryan: Hey guys, Ryan DeMent from Chasing Financial Freedom Podcast. I hope you guys are having a great day this week on the podcast. We have Megan Miller. She’s a recovering corporate America individual that we’re gonna talk to. But listen to this slogan, she’s got passionately dedicated to helping professionals detox off of get it, the drug of achievement, and she set herself free.

[00:00:26] Ryan: Megan, welcome to the show,

[00:00:28] Ryan: Ryan,

[00:00:28] Megan: my friend. I am so happy to be here with you. And I have to tell you, can we talk about your shirt

[00:00:34] Ryan: for a moment? Oh, my SAR, my chance of sarcasm. I love that. you have to, I can’t get up that far, but it’s, it just basically says there’s a 90% chance of sarcasm for pretty much every single day of the week with

[00:00:49] Megan: me.

[00:00:49] Megan: I love that. And I have to tell you, you said on, I believe it was the episode with Emily on chasing happiness. You started at the beginning talking. Bringing fun into the forefront. And I love that when we stop

[00:01:04] Ryan: having fun. Yeah. And having fun just should be part of life. But if you can’t have fun, then you need to sit back and take a look at yourself and say, Hey, I need to make some change and change.

[00:01:16] Ryan: Doesn’t have to be a four letter word.

[00:01:17] Megan: There was a time, oh, go ahead. No, go ahead. I was just gonna say there was a time in my life where I felt, and I have to tell you there, there are still times that I feel it to this day, that if I am not grinding it out, if I am not exhausted at the end of the day, then I’m not doing it.

[00:01:33] Megan: How

[00:01:33] Ryan: horrible is that? We can go down a rabbit hole with that and you’ve already started it. I struggle with that on a daily basis. I truly do. I’m in Arizona, so I’m three hours behind the east coast most, most months. And. Getting up at four o’clock in the morning and starting at five.

[00:01:50] Ryan: So I can be on east coast. Time is a real pain in the butt. And then I work all the way through and I sunset into the Pacific time that’s, those are half days as I call ’em 12 to 14 hour days, pretty much five days a week. And thats in itself can be a lot. I’m doing what I love, but at the same time it wears on you.

[00:02:12] Ryan: It truly does. And you have to figure out, am I doing the right things at the right place? And I know before we got started on the podcast, we were talking about it and we can go into it. And I offloaded 15 things that I was doing that were not generating revenue for the business. So that should help.

[00:02:28] Megan: How smart, how do you keep yourself? I don’t know if motivated is really the word, because I think that’s such a BS word but how do you keep yourself keep showing up?

[00:02:38] Ryan: Do the things that I love. Here’s the thing. I’ve had a couple guests on that say, find your passion, turn it and monetize it.

[00:02:45] Ryan: I disagree in a sense. And there’s just one thing, not everything you love can be monetized. There are certain things out there you can’t monetize, or you don’t have a large enough market. So you have to get smart about how you go after your passion. I’m a, I’m a two time, I call it loser at entrepreneurship.

[00:03:03] Ryan: I had two businesses, they were set up on greed, all about the money, never about the passion or helping others. And they failed my third shot of what I’m doing today. Plus I’ve got two others that I’m I call practicing on cuz they’re not quite live yet. Are truly passions that can be monetized and help other people, but also allow to get, and this is selfish.

[00:03:25] Ryan: It gives me joy. And I think once you find your joy and you find that passion and your happiness. You just keep on, you, keep on showing up every single day. And I know the word grinding out is tough, but there are things in entrepreneurship you have to grind out because you might not have the skill set.

[00:03:42] Ryan: Yeah.

[00:03:43] Megan: I love how you shared this. I failed twice. I’m on a third business now because there are so many lessons that you can learn in the failure. Now, listen, it’s hard when you’ve been fall to your knees, and you have the wounds and you have to pick yourself up and you feel like you’re in the darkest man.

[00:04:00] Megan: I know that, but there are so many lessons. If you change the lens on it, of what did I learn? And that’s where the true magic is. Now I look back at my life, Ryan, seven years ago. Sitting alongside the major highway in Philadelphia, sobbing in my car. It’s like shaking because the trucks are going by so fast.

[00:04:24] Megan: And I think to myself, I can go back there in a second. Like those moments that life bring you to your knees. And I think to myself, how did I get here in that moment? There I am. My mid thirties, got the job, got the title, got the corner office next to the COO and president the thing that was gonna fulfill me or so I thought hashtag dealing with and

[00:04:46] Ryan: you have money supposedly coming in with that too.

[00:04:48] Megan: Right. So the title would make me happy. These things that were culturalized in our world, right? Yes. The money. And here I am in peeling back the layers of it popping Lexapro, binge drinking, because I hated the silence. I was in Loveless relationship after Loveless relationship. I was cut off from my closest friends and family because I didn’t wanna hear how good their life was when I was barely hanging on.

[00:05:19] Megan: And I was $20,000 in debt. But at that moment, it is when things began to change and it is the deepest and darkest moments in the moments that bring us to our knees that, that really begins to shift our life. And there’s a great lesson in there. If you take the opportunity and the curiosity and the bravery to lean

[00:05:40] Ryan: into it, but here’s the thing that we, as human beings are hardwired not to do.

[00:05:48] Ryan: Take on the instant gratification when the instant gratification it’d be good or bad. And I’ll preface that if we, what do we typically do when we. A pretty big decision that we have to make. We kick it down the road a little bit, cuz it’s not gonna hurt us now, but we think, oh, kick it down the road.

[00:06:06] Ryan: It’s not gonna hurt us at all. But that time when you’re sitting there, you made a decision that you weren’t gonna kick it down. The can down the road and you were gonna change your life. You were gonna address what was going on in your life. And you had that aha moment and you were ready.

[00:06:24] Ryan: There’s not a lot of people that get to that and it’s sad, but I’m excited for you to hear your story one and two, I’m thankful that you came on because you’re gonna share your story. And if we inspire just one person or multiple people, I’m good. I’m happy. It brings joy to my life. I love

[00:06:41] Megan: that.

[00:06:42] Megan: And that’s one of the many things I love about this community that you’re building is these beautiful, powerful stories. With everyone that you have on, and it forces us to put down the mask, the thing that we’re never taught how to do this emotional vulnerability and you’re doing it, my friend. So I’m so just so happy to be here with you makes me so happy and to be a part of this community really

[00:07:06] Ryan: well.

[00:07:06] Ryan: Thank you. It’s fun. It’s great to hear people’s story, but also learn from them and take some nuggets and be able to share them in my journey and use their, use your story and other stories to be able to inspire others. That’s, I think whole point of podcasting is getting your voice out there.

[00:07:25] Ryan: I had, I shot another podcast today. My other podcast chasing happiness podcast and the guest on there. Dennis, he is a money coach, but he really focuses in on what’s up here and how you’re hardwired in how your brain. Reacts to the things that we do with money. And it’s just so deep. It’s like I was blown away on some of the things he was talking about.

[00:07:48] Ryan: I’m like, is that why I did that? Oh yeah. That is why I did that. And it just made you think about all the things we do in our life and why we react that way. But the one thing that he brought up and we can go, we’ll go past it is we don’t talk about our shame with money. We don’t talk about our relationship with money at all, because we want to continue to keep up with the Joneses and guess what the Joneses are broke and they’re gonna file bankruptcy.

[00:08:14] Ryan: And that’s the same thing that you do with your coaching. And what you’re doing is really working on overachieving because I’ve been there. All I did was try to climb the corporate ladder, get as many promotions as possible. And at the end of the day was I fulfilled zero. I lived to work and that was it.

[00:08:34] Megan: Ryan, here’s the really hard shit, right? At the end of the day, the common denominator in all this, in your relationships, in your job your spirituality, in your body, in your finances is you. Yes. And that is the relationship that we’re never taught to have. And once you can fix that and do the hard work on the conversations that happen in here with our worst enemy, the roommate that lives in here, everything else starts to, I like

[00:09:03] Ryan: the roommate in there.

[00:09:05] Ryan: We’re gonna have to steal that. Yeah. I like that. Love it. Yeah, cause we’re taught

[00:09:10] Megan: what to think, not how to think. So it’s so easy hand raised. This is how I got on the side of the road. I was raised to be the good daughter, good student, good employee. And that was my validation. So that created this addiction to always wanna please and achieve and do the thing.

[00:09:29] Megan: And man, if you don’t check that it, it can bring you to your knees as it did me.

[00:09:35] Ryan: But the thing that you just talked about is where we all start from is what we’re taught and learned growing up and being sponges as kids we’re really taught. We’re absorbing everything. We’re taught from our family, friends and so forth.

[00:09:50] Ryan: But the other piece aspect is school. Doesn’t teach us to be free thinkers and understand what’s going on. It’s just, it’s structured and continue to just step one, step two, step three, and regurgitate some information in between. When we become, oh, that’s so true. No,

[00:10:04] Megan: go ahead. No, I just, cause I got that.

[00:10:06] Megan: I’m agreeing that’s so true. And at, in my mid thirties, having this meltdown, what I was really forced to do, which none of us wanna do, because if you’re like me, running’s easy to the next thing that gives you the fix, right? So the email, the Muff and the martini, whatever it is, or all three and it all dialed back to childhood.

[00:10:26] Megan: So when I really took the time to pause and man Ryan, you and I can have this conversation and it sounds easy now, but it’s hard. It’s hard. I said, if this stuff was easy, everyone will be walking around rich, skinny. It’s not that easy. It’s hard.

[00:10:44] Ryan: I like that rich skinny. And you’re trying to go down the road and I’m

[00:10:47] Megan: thinking I was gonna go down the road, but I think people can let it carry on from there.

[00:10:53] Ryan: yeah, they can let it carry on, but that’s a challenge with society and where we’re at today and that translates to everything we’re gonna talk about or anything that we will talk about. Like entrepreneurship, everyone thinks, oh, I’m just gonna be my own boss. It’s easy peasy. Lemon squeezy doesn’t work that way.

[00:11:08] Ryan: It’s probably the most difficult thing I’ve done professionally. I can get up in front of thousands of people and talk and people say that’s the most fearful or hardest thing to do me. Eh it’s not put me in front of a bunch of entrepreneurs, successful entrepreneurs that really have turned themselves around or turned other businesses around.

[00:11:26] Ryan: I will get nervous because then I’ll feel like about that big. And that’s struggle and that’s entrepreneurship in its in itself, whether you’re a small business owner, entrepreneur, whatever you call yourself it’s a lifestyle that you have to be one accepted of two open and three, understand that you’re going to fall on your ass many times and you’ve gotta get up every single time to win.

[00:11:51] Megan: God, that’s so true. Sarah, I’m a huge Sarah Blakely fan. And for those male, she’s primarily known in the female space because it’s, Hory that she created and build this empire. And she says, and here’s what I love. I love that she’s giving this a voice because we don’t talk about this enough.

[00:12:07] Megan: Is the fact that she failed the LSATs twice. She came out with $5,000 to her. She was selling fax machines and telling herself this can’t be the story of my life. Like she was failing after thing that she wanted, thing that she wanted wasn’t working out. And then she had this idea to eventually build span.

[00:12:26] Megan: And what she says is her foundation, her creed, as to how she was successful was one. She gave herself space to listen to her intuition. What a gift that is our inner gut whispers are there for a reason. Two, she worked on her mindset and that I think is so huge. When you give yourself a space to work on the conversations you have with yourself that can set you up exponentially versus the task list of 86,000 things you think you can do in an eight hour day, because you think you’re super.

[00:13:02] Ryan: And then you end up getting, not even eighth of that done. And you’re like, where did the day go? What did I get done? What did I accomplish? And it’s, oh my God, we’re gonna go down rabbit holes. And we’re 14 minutes into

[00:13:15] Megan: this. so Ryan, while we’re on this I just wanna give a highlight to this because this just made me think for those that are those of us and the audience that are listening and thinking.

[00:13:25] Megan: Yes, Ryan and Meg. I, yes, preach I’m here, but how do I change that? It’s these small microsteps that I teach because when we think our problems are big, we think the solutions are big. Yeah. And so we never start we’re paralyzed by the what

[00:13:39] Ryan: ifs. We’re paralyzed by the what ifs, but also the boulders that are in front of us instead of looking at pebbles and saying, okay, I can start moving these pebbles and taking those baby steps.

[00:13:51] Ryan: We only look at the end result, but here’s the other thing I learned this morning in this interview with Dennis we’re hardwired for the instant gratification. Who says, oh yeah, I wanna wait four years before I’m successful as an entrepreneur. I don’t know of anybody who wants to wait eight years or 10 years, we’re not, we’re hardwired for instant gratification.

[00:14:11] Ryan: So how do we work within that realm that we’ve been given is like you said, we have to change our mindset. We have to start listening to our inner voice. You have to start being for me. When I first got into this and really started seeing success is me being thankful and grateful for the things I have on a daily basis.

[00:14:32] Ryan: My four walls, a roof over my head, close on my back food on the table. Bills paid. Everything else is a bonus to me in life. I still live that today. We’re gonna probably not probably we are going to another level in our real estate development business, and I’ll probably go back to eating peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

[00:14:51] Ryan: So I’m putting more money back into the company and making sure that all that’s there. Is it a scarcity mindset a little bit, but it’s also that I’ve learned to live without the, how do you wanna call it the Fu fus in life? I don’t need crazy stuff in life to be happy. If I have my basics taken care of, I’m very happy.

[00:15:12] Ryan: I have a healthy family. I have a healthy healthy parents and siblings. My dogs are happy. Hey that’s all I need to keep me.

[00:15:20] Megan: Ryan, you said so many very powerful things there. And I love how you talk about gratitude. Like we listen in our world, we love to just slap a key word out there and say, Hey, this is what it is, but we never dig deep into it.

[00:15:34] Megan: So gratitude, self care, burnout, recovery, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah . But really there is so much science behind. If you just stop in your day and just take a handful of minutes, it can be less than three minutes and write down three things you’re grateful for. I’m a huge believer in the power of writing things down.

[00:15:53] Megan: Science has shown us. You forget 80% of what you think of what you hear. If you don’t write it down, yes. Write down things you’re grateful for. And that’ll change what you look for because what you look for in life, you find,

[00:16:06] Ryan: and you people think routines are bad, but as an entrepreneur, a routine works because if you get up every time in the morning at the same time, make your bed.

[00:16:18] Ryan: Whatever you, for me, it’s get up, make my bed. I make a list of things that I’m thankful for every single day. It does change, but the crux or the main pieces don’t and then the other piece of it is just quiet time. No distractions no cell phones, no, nothing. Everything is just away and gone.

[00:16:36] Ryan: And that allows me to it’s not meditation, cause I’ve never been really good at that, but it is turning my brain off and just, taking in that I’m alive, I’m healthy. Everything’s going well. And that kind of start starts my day at a great place. And then I jump into it and I start that morning routine and just do my thing.

[00:16:54] Ryan: Most people just get up and immediately are on their cell phone, addicted to social media and okay, what am I gonna do to keep up with the Joneses? And it’s so sad.

[00:17:05] Megan: I read a study and this is when I realized, oh my God, I have to change that. If three minutes, three minutes is all it takes of getting up and going straight to the phone for the emails, watching the news pings, social feeds, and you will have a 70% chance Ryan, 70% chance of having a bad day.

[00:17:25] Megan: So you, yeah. So you gifting yourself the moment of writing a few things down, you’re grateful for the moment of silence. That is so powerful and it sounds silly. It sounds some people might even say that’s hokey. That’s stupid. I’m not doing that. Try it. What do you have to lose and get curious, find things that work for you.

[00:17:50] Megan: So for me, just free writing in the morning to get the thoughts out of here, like God, there are so many thoughts that go on in this brain of mine all day long. It’s scary. It’s a scary place to be. God bless my husband,

[00:18:05] Ryan: but you know what? There’s nothing wrong with that. But if you’ve got a lot going on and you start writing those things down, it helps.

[00:18:12] Ryan: It’ll help center you. We can go into goal setting. There’s so many things, but until you actually try it and consistently do it over a period of time to where it becomes a habit, I always tell people you can’t poo it because that’s, you’re just basically saying, oh, it’s just easier not to try it.

[00:18:29] Ryan: Yeah. It’s a lot easy. Excuse me. Easier to try it, not try it. And. That to me is somebody that’s okay with failure and people don’t like that. When I tell me, Hey, if you’re open to failure and you’re willing to stay where you’re at and be a camper in life instead of a climber in life, God bless you. I, it’s not my life to live.

[00:18:50] Ryan: I’m okay with it, but you can’t come tell me what I’m doing wrong when you’re not willing to do the same thing. God.

[00:18:57] Megan: That’s so true. And also too, here’s another thing, Ryan, to that point, I look back in my life and when I was the most, what’s the word I’m looking for at my deepest and darkest days when I was just angry at the world, because I wasn’t giving myself these things to really find out what I wanted.

[00:19:15] Megan: I had no idea. I was so quick to be the person that you wanted me to be, whoever you wanted me to be to like me is who I was. So in my mid thirties, you could ask me any question, my opinion on anything. And I regurgitated you the answer that you wanted. And I found that at that moment in, in those moments is when I was the most judgemental, I would talk smack on everybody around me.

[00:19:41] Megan: I was so angry and there is something to be said that those, that judge others, it is so true. It’s more of a reflection on themselves yes. Than it is of the person on the receiving end. So I think we need to change the narrative around even how we look at jealousy, because there’s something to be taught there on what you’re missing in your own life that makes you jealous and angry of what others have.

[00:20:05] Ryan: And guess what that guess what actually takes it to a whole nother level social media, because people think what is put out on Instagram and TikTok and Snapchat and Facebook and on YouTube, whatever are people’s lives. And you start digging into it. I’m not saying these people are not successful or whatever.

[00:20:26] Ryan: But they’re human beings. They have problems just like you. And I they’ve gotta put their pants on, whether it be the right leg or the left leg they don’t live some different life. At the end of the day. They have troubles too, but social media’s taught people in general that, Hey, what I see on there is truth.

[00:20:44] Ryan: In fact, in, in it’s most of the time it’s fiction.

[00:20:48] Megan: So Ryan, I have been building this movement some days. It feels like nine years and it’s been nine months really . And I remember in January, when I got brave enough to speak this into the world of helping others detox off the drug of achievement, leaving behind my corporate job.

[00:21:06] Megan: So I was following and I still am all of these major innovators in this space, like Mel Robbins, Marie Foley, bene brown. And I see them get all these likes. And I start thinking to myself, I can’t do this. I what do I have to say? So the imposter syndrome kicks in. I read this really great book by Dan Sullivan, it’s called the gap.

[00:21:26] Megan: Oh yeah. And the GA yeah, the gap in the game. And there is if anyone is a high achiever on the line please get yourself a book. It, this book, the gap in the game, it really changed my narrative around how I look at air quote success. And one of the practices in there was just some questions around what is your barometer of success?

[00:21:48] Megan: These things that were never taught is it external or internal? And when I sat down and I really went through those things of, with quietness and curiosity in the morning before the rest of the world got a hold of me, just me, my thoughts in the paper and this practice from this book. I was much more successful than I thought I was because to me, success was spending time with my husband on the weekday, getting a message from someone saying, Hey, your message really resonated with me feeling true to myself.

[00:22:20] Megan: Something I hadn’t felt ever in my life versus the Instagram, following the likes.

[00:22:29] Ryan: right. It’s truly that. And being able to tune out the noise, whether it be positive or negative and just be true to yourself is huge in I love what Gary V puts out Vayner Chuck and how he goes about it.

[00:22:46] Ryan: Some of the stuff, little too crazy, because he’s just telling people go out there and start shooting. You gotta have a little more than that, but at least he’s telling people to go do something, find your passion. I agree. But I really like how he describes of himself. He’s like he gives a flying F about what people think, whether it be positive or negative.

[00:23:05] Ryan: I am who I am. If you like me. Great. If you don’t like me. Great too. It’s okay. And we’re not accepting of that as human beings in society and that’s sad. And that’s one reason why I put the podcast together is cuz I’m gonna put my voice out there. Whether people like it or not. I’m okay.

[00:23:20] Ryan: I’ve never had a problem with people’s opinion. If they don’t like me, God bless you. I’m okay. You have the right to that. But at the end of the day, if you can’t be you and share your opinion or share your voice, you gotta sit back and start looking at yourself and say, what am I doing? And start trying to recompile yourself and say, am I really in the right place right now for my life?

[00:23:42] Ryan: And start doing those quiet moments. Like you say, to start reflecting on what you have and what you want to do. And that is probably the most difficult thing to do in

[00:23:52] Megan: life. So it took me seven years of a lot of pain that I can remember probably longer than that. Ryan, if I’m being honest, but seven years of this just inner gut whisper telling me that I was meant for.

[00:24:06] Megan: But really not having enough courage to lean into it. And when I had enough bravery to begin to lean into it took me a long time to get here. And that’s, it’s a, it takes time. But I realized that as someone who is a former people, pleaser, chameleon mode, all of that started to change. When I began to create these little habits, these little microsteps that had me believing in myself, trusting and believing in myself.

[00:24:32] Megan: So what is that? So as we talked about earlier, making time for you so that can be, five minutes pen to paper that was huge in my world. It could be lacing up the sneakers and going for a walk around the block. Like we think that you need to go on a Peloton and wanna throw up to move your body.

[00:24:50] Megan: It can be 20 minutes. Science has shown it cuts depression by 36%. So it’s making time for you and whatever that looks like. And then it’s keeping that promise to yourself when your life gets crazy and your calendar gets crazy and you have all of these things to do that takes you from morning, all the way to the night.

[00:25:08] Megan: I remember sitting in front of my computer with sheer exhaustion, telling myself when I could barely function. You are not a failure. Meg, sit here and do this. And what really would’ve been powerful is hitting the Bo pause and keeping one promise to myself or one thing that would make me happy. So sitting outside for 10 minutes with the book in, with the sun maybe spending some time with my husband at the dinner table, phones away, maybe right.

[00:25:35] Megan: Being engaged. Yeah. Being engaged. It’s these little things that when you make the promise to yourself and you keep it, you start showing up differently. You really do.

[00:25:45] Ryan: And you take yourself to a take yourself from here to here and. Me personally. And I want to hear your opinion. I like those humans better because when I’m around them, they bring me to another level too, because they show me something I haven’t learned.

[00:26:02] Ryan: And when you’re not engaged and you’re always on your cell phone, what does that do? It just teaches you that I don’t have to have a relationship with human beings. We’re human. You need to have other relationships with humans. And if you wanna just be buried in your job and your cell phone and never be engaged, see where that gets you a life of loneliness and unhappiness, even though you think you’re happy, you’re not, oh God

[00:26:29] Megan: Ryan and I was there as you’re talking, I’m smiling like the Cheshire cat, because I resonate with that into a whole.

[00:26:35] Megan: Another level like it, when I was so addicted to this job, because to me, the job was my validation in the world and my worth. And when I was so addicted to it, all I wanted to do was hide in my cocoon and not talk to everybody. I was annoyed at everybody. Everybody annoyed me and I didn’t wanna talk to anybody.

[00:26:52] Megan: And what I realized now, after taking the moments to get to know myself through these little microsteps of the silence of the curiosity of pen to paper, asking myself these questions, keeping a promise to myself, doing that repeatedly. Not only did I start to change my relationships grew exponentially.

[00:27:14] Megan: My family started to heal. It was like, I started to just organically, not even consciously, organically begin to surround myself with people that elevated me and didn’t deplete me. And it all began with me

[00:27:29] Ryan: and it all began with you. But then the other thing is. It didn’t happen overnight. It started in slow increments and started happening as you added more layers to it and changed your life.

[00:27:42] Ryan: And that’s where people struggle is they want the instant gratification, but if they continue to work through it, it will happen over time. It’s just not gonna be tomorrow.

[00:27:54] Megan: I would tell your audience if they only do one thing from this one action, because it’s not a lack of information, how we have information at our fingertips at any given time, right?

[00:28:05] Megan: Any given time, it’s a lack of action. So just one piece of action. If they just go to Megan hyphen miller.com, I have a free gift for this community. It’s the four step micro step download journal prompts that I use every day. And I have for the last seven years to get. So just, if they go there, they download it, it’s free and use it.

[00:28:28] Megan: It takes less than five minutes. And that’s such a gift to take the first step in getting to know what you want, not what the world has been Bullhorn in your ear, your entire

[00:28:39] Ryan: life. You have to take action though. That’s the part you have to want it and take action. And if people don’t want it I joke about it when I talk to somebody, I joke.

[00:28:49] Ryan: I just, I say it is I think we’re not a right match and the person will go why? And I’m like cuz you’re not ready to change. You’re telling me that you don’t know the top three things in your life that you wanna go after and change. If that, if you don’t know that, then no one can help you because you have to first know that and be able to say, okay, I’m ready to engage.

[00:29:08] Ryan: I just need help with the steps in moving the different pieces in my life to make it happen. But if you can identify what you wanna have changed. That’s a struggle and you gotta go. You gotta really start there quiet time, understand what you want, think about all the things that you’re in your life and what you wanna change.

[00:29:27] Ryan: And maybe it takes several weeks or months or years. I don’t know. Sometimes it might take that long, but you have to be patient with the process until it actually hits you.

[00:29:36] Megan: Ryan, as you’re telling this story, which is so true, it makes me flash too. This one thing that I always say, and I’m, so I’m guilty of hand raised is to your point, the instant gratification, the certainty, the significant that these things, that 90% of us as humans want.

[00:29:51] Megan: So we think that if we are unhappy, it is quitting, the job it is picking up and moving it is ending the relationship it’s dry January. It’s the cleanse these things that we think, right? Not eating, listen, I’ve done so many of those not eating for 48 hours is really gonna make me lose the way and they never work.

[00:30:13] Megan: Because we think it’s these big rip off the bandaids. When, to your point earlier, it’s these small little foundational steps, brick by brick. Yes. So what is that? It’s how you get up in the morning. It is what you eat. It is how you move your body. It is how the conversations you have with yourself.

[00:30:32] Megan: It’s are you keeping a promise to yourself or are you just a tornado by everyone? Else’s expectations. How do you go to bed at night? Are you sleeping with the phone, like 95% of us do in bed? Yes. All of that. It sets the trajectory for your life. Not these big, huge swoop that we like to say as a society.

[00:30:54] Ryan: And how do you serve others? If you have zero in the tank for yourself? That’s a big thing. We’re out to, like you said earlier, you’re a people pleaser and you were doing all that, but you had zero in the tank for yourself. So you’re really not doing anybody else a service you’re doing a disservice.

[00:31:10] Ryan: And until you actually can realize how much is missing in your life, you truly can’t serve others. And in that moment in time, when you do realize that, at least for me, I found some passion and I found things that I wanted to do. Was it the same thing I’m doing today? No, it’s evolved over time.

[00:31:29] Ryan: We have a real estate development corporation. We have a nonprofit now. I’ve added on podcasts and somewhere in there. As I said, I was joking earlier. I have now a coaching business, a change coaching business. That’s evolving outta the podcast. I don’t know where that’s gonna go.

[00:31:45] Ryan: It’s in its infancy or in its beginning stages. But. It’s just life. I’m taking life as steps and seeing where it takes me and we’ll deal with it. But the cool thing is it’s happening. It’s coming. It’s part of evolving as a human, but also evolving from the heart and passion. When you have that, it just, your life has more meaning and you get up every day with passion and vigor.

[00:32:10] Ryan: And I’ve just noticed that , I, my girlfriend jokes about it. She goes, damn. It’s Saturday and Sunday. And you’re up at four 30. Yeah, I’m ready to go. Let’s go. It’s a day. That ends in why it doesn’t matter for me. I get up because I’m excited for the day. Oh, Ryan.

[00:32:26] Megan: I, I love that there was a point in my life where I would think to myself, as I heard the alarm ring and would hit this news button for the 75th time, how am I gonna make it through the day?

[00:32:36] Megan: and that it has been a long journey to change. And as you’re talking about this curiosity, this change, this growth, I think. We can so quickly see it in others. Yes. But it’s so difficult to see in ourselves. So this really cool thing happened to me this week. And as you’re sharing this story, it just made me think of it.

[00:32:54] Megan: I had found this journal that I had written two years ago, and as I opened it and I started to read it, I thought, holy shit, all of these things that I was so shaky on, not trusting myself like fearful, cuz I had these inner gut whispers and I knew it wasn’t the way I was leading my life, but I was scared to make these moves.

[00:33:17] Megan: I was all in my head petrified and I thought to myself, oh my God, all of these moves that I have made in two years to get here that I didn’t even recognize. So I would say to your listeners, they print out that journal prompt, get themselves a little, you can get out at the dollar store, a little journal with some pieces of paper that together, and you get a pen out and you write with that journal prompt and you also see where you are and where you wanna go.

[00:33:44] Megan: Because being able to look at a piece of paper at where you were even two weeks ago can be powerful. If you give yourself the tools and the curiosity and the bravery and the time to do it,

[00:34:00] Ryan: there’s the, those are all keywords. But the thing is time. You have to sit down and say, I’m ready for change. And put the time in that is just, we could go in a whole different story conversation, rabbit, holes, whatever you wanna say, we never give ourselves enough time to be happy.

[00:34:19] Megan: I would say you can start to get to know yourself in five minutes or less a day. The fact that you’re telling yourself, you don’t have time. I call bullshit. Cuz I told myself that for a long time. Yeah, you can sit down with a piece of pen and some silence and five minutes. I don’t care if it’s in your car.

[00:34:37] Megan: I don’t care if it’s at your work desk before you get the computer ramped up. don’t care if it’s, before you go to bed, you can find five minutes in your day,

[00:34:46] Ryan: put your F cell phone down, turn off the TV, stop binge watching Netflix and just do it. At night there’s times where I will, I have some people that I follow on YouTube that are either inspirational or they’re in the real estate space.

[00:34:59] Ryan: And I like watching them. Then I catch myself where I’ve been on it for 45 minutes now oh, you know what, I need to disconnect. I need to reconnect and get back to, life type of a thing. And it’s I it’s hard. I catch myself doing that and it’s what am I doing? And if you’re not cognizant of that, Already you’re okay with it.

[00:35:19] Ryan: And I think for myself, I’m not okay with it and that’s why I stop myself. But the other thing is it’s the disconnection of, I, I don’t know how to say this other than I feel like I’m disconnecting from the people that mean so much to me in my life, my family, my girlfriend, my dogs, whatever.

[00:35:39] Ryan: I feel like if I’m on my cell phone doing that I’m not creating that relationship and that bond, and we all have only X amount of time on this face of this earth. We don’t know when it’s gonna end. So when you have these people present, you need to be present too.

[00:35:58] Megan: That Brian that’s so true. And I, listen, I catch myself that too, and I’m preaching this.

[00:36:03] Megan: So I would say we are all human, have a little compassion with yourself and when you recognize it, then you can change it. But what was so powerful for me, again, back to the microsteps because I’ve been there. I was one of the 95% that would have my phone in the bed right at right by the nightstand table.

[00:36:20] Megan: and what I realized is that it first of all, it got me all in my head. I couldn’t sleep good. I’m checking social, I’m shopping. I’m reading the email. So of course you’re not gonna sleep good before you go to bed. But my husband got me a $20 phone charger from Amazon for the bathroom 20 bucks.

[00:36:35] Megan: And it changed my life an hour before bed, that phone goes in the bathroom, the temptation is taken away. I always say, if you were on a diet, trying to watch your body, you wouldn’t have Oreos out on the kitchen counter . So why are you gonna keep the phone by your nightstand table? I like that it changed the way it changed, the way we go to bed.

[00:36:58] Megan: As a couple, it changed how I go to bed. I sleep better. And then also too back to keeping the promises to yourself. Not only am I off this news, I start my day by keeping the first promise to myself. And that is getting up on the alarm rings. That’s yes, huge for a mindset hack

[00:37:15] Ryan: huge. And you’re not into all the negative aspects of the world already.

[00:37:22] Ryan: You’re getting up. Your brain is rested. It’s clear, and you’re starting your day with a positive moment and it’s not full of, oh my God. Look at all the emails I have or all this news and all this craziness going on in the political stuff, you don’t get that noise. You’re just tuned into your own head, your own life.

[00:37:39] Ryan: And it starts out with I it’s peaceful as how I describe it for myself. I wake up and it’s peaceful.

[00:37:47] Megan: So there is and I’m gonna keep going back to this journal process because it change. It changed my life. So of things that I was never taught, I was never taught this. I didn’t have the toolkit. I didn’t have the language.

[00:37:57] Megan: So I it took me so long to get here. And this journal process was such a help. So there’s four steps to it, but the two steps that were so just powerful and changing how I started my day, because it got me off of the calendar of to-do list of everybody’s else’s wants and needs. And it put my two things.

[00:38:17] Megan: First. These were non-negotiables. This changed the game for me. The first thing I would ask myself in the morning is what is one act of service that I can do? And it could be something as simple as leaving a love note for my husband by the coffee. It could be something as simple as texting a girlfriend.

[00:38:33] Megan: It could be texting the colleague and saying, Hey, you killed that presentation yesterday under a minute, one thing. And then the other thing was, what is one thing I can do today? That’ll make me happy that. And I kept those two promises and it changed everything. It changed how I read those emails. I stopped being like stupid idiot, reread it.

[00:38:53] Megan: And I was reading the emails different in my head instead of the text messages coming through. And I was like, Pablo’s dog, twitching being like, what do you want now? I couldn’t wait to see what was on the other line of the text and what I realized through canceling so many things for myself and the calendar Ryan was that when you do that, when you put things in the calendar for yourself, even just 10, 15 minutes, and you cancel them, what that does is that puts you on the back burner others’ needs in front.

[00:39:23] Megan: And that’s how you get agitated. That’s when you get angry, that’s when you feel like you’re spinning, that’s when you have those Darth fader moments. So it’s really an I’ve had plenty. It is really. Just making those commitments to yourself of what is one act of service and was one thing I can do, that’ll make me happy.

[00:39:42] Megan: And it’s amazing how the rest of the world, like you’ll start to find more good in your days. And you’ll have created your own foundation before the rest of the world gets a hold of you. And that’s it. It’s

[00:39:50] Ryan: that simple. And what you’ll see in this process, and it, some people say it’s unfortunate for me.

[00:39:58] Ryan: It’s tomato, tomato, however you wanna spin it. People you are surrounded by today, more than likely, not all of them, but majority of them will fall off because your mindset will shift. You’ll start becoming more of a positive person. You’ll start putting out positive vibrations. You are probably surrounded by people that are negative Nels and they will go away and you will find another tribe.

[00:40:26] Ryan: And in this journey, I’ve experienced that multiple times. And I have learned, and this, I just wanna tell a quick story and then I’ve gotta ask you a personal question that just keeps on eating at me. I don’t want you do that now. Are you a native Philly girl?

[00:40:41] Megan: I’ve been there for almost 20 years.

[00:40:43] Megan: So it feels like I’m a native Philly girl, Jersey. I’m a country bumpkin. I lovingly call it Penn. It’s like the middle, ah, middle of Pennsylvania. One stop light town. Whereabouts are you familiar with that area? Oh, yes. Yeah. So it is I grew up near Bloomsburg.

[00:41:02] Ryan: Okay. I spent a lot of time in Wilkesboro.

[00:41:04] Megan: Oh yeah. Yep. The little league just came through Williamsport. It was a big, yeah. Big deal. My parents for a week had that on 24.

[00:41:13] Ryan: Yeah, no, I was just trying to capture where your accent was from. So I had to keep on listening, so I’m like, okay, she’s in that circle of tri area over there.

[00:41:21] Ryan: So I gotta figure out where she’s from. It just kept on eating at me but I digress. What were we on? Oh my gosh. I’ve already

[00:41:27] Megan: lost my thought. you said you wanted to share a story quick. Oh, and

[00:41:30] Ryan: ah, oh, I’ve already forgot it. It’ll have to come back to me, but the, we were talking about people in your inner circle will fall off.

[00:41:38] Ryan: Oh, you know what I wanna talk about? So in this space that I’m in I’m in uncharted territories because we’re gonna start developing larger pieces of land, like raw land. And I have no clue about this zero zilch, NA a I’ll be the first person to tell you. And it’s like, how do I do this, Ryan, what am I gonna do?

[00:41:58] Ryan: I can only read so many books or so forth. So what did I start doing every single morning for the past? Probably four months I’ve been putting out there. I need a mentor. I need somebody that can help me take this to another level. Instead of just developing 14 or 15 infield, lots, I need to develop a hundred or 150.

[00:42:21] Ryan: And it was funny thing is this week I had three people reach out to me. Two of ’em I’ve spoken to before the third person never even spoken to ’em just reached out and said, Hey, I’m in the real estate development space and this is what I do. And I’m like shut the front door really? And I had no clue.

[00:42:39] Ryan: And now I’ve got calls set up with all three of them next week to be able to talk to them about what we’re trying to do and how it can help, how it can help us, because ultimately me as a leader or an entrepreneur business owner, whatever, I have to know where my limitations are. And that is one, I have no clue about that type of development.

[00:42:57] Ryan: So I was thinking. Short story or long story short very quickly is I also need to have somebody that’s gonna be able to not just the real estate piece, but then also scale our infrastructure because there needs to be a lot more systems in place. Lo and behold, two of those three guys have that have those skill sets too.

[00:43:19] Ryan: So it’s like winter chicken dinner, but I’ve been putting this out there for four months cuz I’ve been working on it. And I guess the right message finally got out there and BTA being about a boom. Here we are. And it’s not instant gratification. I kept at it and now I’ve got some people to talk to now, are they the right people or not?

[00:43:37] Ryan: I don’t know, but I’ll still continue to put it out there until I find the right person or people,

[00:43:43] Megan: Ryan, as you’re telling that story, which congratulations by the way that’s some really good Juju right there. But as, as you’re telling that two things come to mind, one the power to ask. I know for a very long time, I was so fearful to put any asks of my tribe around.

[00:44:01] Megan: I just felt like I had to do everything on my own. And you could probably dial that back again to childhood single parent didn’t wanna get hurt, walls built up, but there was a tribe of people around me willing to support me if I put out the ask. So I would say whatever that ask is you watch the kids tonight.

[00:44:20] Megan: I’m having trouble with this project. I’m looking to do X, do you know anybody? It’s so powerful. People will show up. And then the second thing is consistency. It’s the mother of all skill. It’s not, we’ve all seen the means online. It’s not what you do. Some of the time, it’s what you do all the time. And as stupid as that is, sometimes you’re like yeah.

[00:44:42] Megan: I don’t wanna hear it. It’s true. It’s true.

[00:44:45] Ryan: It’s very true. And the other one that goes along with that, it for business owners or entrepreneurs persistency, you gotta be

[00:44:52] Megan: persistent. Oh yes. And I would say my 15 year corporate sales career, I would always say, okay, that’s not, no, it’s just not yet.

[00:45:04] Megan: Yeah. And I think for us entrepreneurs where it is our heart and our soul, and a lot of us are one people armies is you can so easily take that. No. As something personal. I know. I know I have, but what has been so powerful is we talked about earlier, Ryan is then the questions that, that you ask yourself okay.

[00:45:25] Megan: This might just not be a, not yet, but maybe, who else do they know? Or can I get inquisitive on why the know? So I know for future that I can address that with a potential customer right up front. So I understand their hot button issues and I am able to speak to it. Like, how can this be a learning versus no shut in the door, tail between my legs.

[00:45:47] Megan: I can’t do this sort of narrative,

[00:45:49] Ryan: but it, but here’s the thing is it’s okay to have a little bit of a pity party when you do get shut down, but take that pity party to another level and say, okay, sh woe was me, blah, blah, blah. I do this. And then I step my game up and say, okay, what did I learn from it?

[00:46:04] Ryan: It’s okay. To be sad or upset about something because it didn’t happen. That’s a normal reaction, but you have to get past it and get to the point of, okay, what did I learn? And that’s I give where we struggle.

[00:46:17] Megan: I give myself 24 hours. So this just happened to me, actually, Ryan just the other week, 24 hours, I had to do something that I did not want to do.

[00:46:25] Megan: I said, yes, when I should have said no. And I knew it right from the very beginning. So the day comes to do this thing. I’m pissed off at the world. I don’t wanna do it. Everybody’s annoying me. I’m frustrated. I’m like, it’s amazing how you can go through this roller coaster of emotions. I’m angry, I’m frustrated, I’m annoyed.

[00:46:42] Megan: I’m pissed. I, and I gave myself 24 hours. Like I tried to tell myself in that moment, come on, Meg snap out of it. And I basically was telling myself to shut up. I’m not in the mood to deal with this, but the next day I gave myself 24 hours from a pitted party. The next day I told myself with a clear mind, okay, Meg, what did you learn?

[00:47:01] Megan: And then it came to me. But to your point, Ryan? Yes, it is. Okay. To throw yourself a pity party to be pissed off, to be angry, to be sad, to go through the emotions, allow yourself to feel it and then you pick yourself up and you ask yourself what you learned and it will come to you.

[00:47:17] Ryan: And it does.

[00:47:18] Ryan: And I’ve learned most times I have more clarity when I get over that pity party and I get the learning from it, but then it sparks ideas on how to one improve or two go after whatever that is a different way. It’s not always life changing, but it sure brings clarity to where you went wrong or what happened and how you can better yourself.

[00:47:44] Ryan: And that takes a lot of inward looking, but also understanding the situation you were in. Maybe like you said, it’s something you hated, you didn’t wanna do. Maybe next time, instead of saying, Hey, I didn’t wanna do it. The mindset would be shift and say, okay, I’ll do that. I’m up for a challenge. And maybe the outcome, would be a little different.

[00:48:07] Ryan: I don’t know. It’s for me, it’s about the learning experience. I know it’s stupid and it’s an old adage, but it truly is because if we’re not learning, we’re not growing another old adage. , I’m filmed today. I don’t know why. But how do we continue to evolve and better ourselves by learning?

[00:48:24] Ryan: And if you’re not learning, we’re back to what I, one of my prior guests on chasing happiness he’s he was a NFL veteran, retired and struggled coming back into the real world. And he came up with the idea of, do I want to be a camper in life or do I want to be a climber in life? And after that period of time of understanding that.

[00:48:45] Ryan: He went through a huge transformation and became a business owner. And now he’s a speaker and he does motivational speaking and it’s very powerful story. And it’s you think about it. Do you wanna sit here and be comfortable all day or do you want to go to the next level and make change and be that climber in life?

[00:49:03] Ryan: It, to me that just, I don’t know how to describe it other than it’s very powerful. You think about it. I’m sitting on the couch. I envision myself fat, ugly popcorn and food all over my shirt while I’m watching Netflix on the couch. Or am I out climbing and doing things out in nature or traveling or doing things with my family, because I’m trying to get myself ahead in life and do the things that make sense to me.

[00:49:29] Ryan: One and two, bring me joy.

[00:49:32] Megan: So Ryan as you’re telling that, it just makes me think. I say all the time, my life could have went in many. Directions. I, like I said, single mother, we, she worked two jobs to keep a roof over our head food on the table. Very humble beginnings father, not in my life. I had a lot of family members that really struggled.

[00:49:53] Megan: We didn’t have anything, but how I was able to really get into this lane of air quote, success on what it looked like for me. That very much could have been. The reason that I was addicted to achieving in corporate America for all those years, was to prove to the world as a C student, as someone who had a speech impediment that I could do it, as the world told me that I couldn’t follow those years but what I think the real changes, at least for me in, in, in my story was that I gave myself.

[00:50:21] Megan: The space and the curiosity to lean into these little tiny gut whispers. And they are just that little tiny gut whispers. When you have the world Bullhorn in your ear, Sarah Blakely says to go back to her that all of these speaking engagements that she does, women come up to her all the time and say, Hey, I was doing that with my panty host for years.

[00:50:44] Megan: But what the difference is that she took action. Yes. So Sarah Blakely took action while the rest of these women didn’t. So for the listeners out there that are thinking to themselves I don’t know. I don’t know what this future holds. All I would say is to just give yourself space and silence and some curiosity and lean into it because you don’t have to blow up your life.

[00:51:08] Megan: All curiosity says, as it sits on your shoulder is, Hey, turn your head and look at me. And that’s all you need to do to see the spiral of what unravel.

[00:51:19] Ryan: It’s amazing. Once you take action, how much changes in your life and where it can actually go? It’s endless. It’s limitless. It’s, you’re only limited by what’s between your ears, as you say, your roommate that’s living up there.

[00:51:34] Megan: Yeah. So I like to call it. So it’s called the particular activation system, RAs in your brain, which is basically a fancy word that says that there’s a bouncer that lives up here and you tell it what to. And listen, if you don’t check it, it can let in all the wrong shit. Why do I have to fix everything?

[00:51:51] Megan: I’ll always be overweight. There’s no good men out there. I suck at math. I’m not good at this. That can all be let in if you don’t check it. But that bouncer can also let in a whole nother narrative of, wow, I’m really good at this. I have people that can support me in this. It’s like when you’re shopping for a car and then you see that car everywhere.

[00:52:11] Megan: It’s the same thing. So there has been science around, it’s called the habit loop and you can Google it. And basically what it is when you make the promise to yourself and you keep it regardless of how small it could be something as simple as I’m going to take the clothes that have been sitting on top of the washer for the past year, to the Goodwill.

[00:52:31] Megan: That’s the story of our household there. It could be something as simple as that begins to change what the bouncer lets

[00:52:37] Ryan: in. . Yeah. And that, man, I think that you just put the title of the podcast, the bouncer in your head is letting in the wrong crowd. Something

[00:52:48] Megan: That I love that because we’re taught how to think, not what to

[00:52:53] Ryan: think.

[00:52:54] Ryan: Yeah. And it’s, we’re back to, you show up and you’re told what to do and that’s just life in general. And that starts at such a young age and that’s, it’s crazy what we have going on in the schools, in the back and forth and everything like that. And it’s you wonder why we’re losing generations of people because they’re not being taught how to think for themselves and be able to make decisions that are outside of the norms.

[00:53:24] Ryan: It doesn’t matter what side you have, the political aisle you’re on it. Just think about it. It. You can’t have a free thought and then have somebody tune you out or cancel you or whatever they call it. That’s stupid. Okay. I, you know what my thought process or my opinion doesn’t agree with you.

[00:53:41] Ryan: I’m okay. God bless you. You’re okay to have that. I’d rather have a healthy conversation and engage with that person. But most people today will not engage in that type of conversation because they don’t want to defend their position. And it’s that just really tells me you don’t believe what you’re saying.

[00:53:57] Ryan: You’re just going along and towing the line just because it’s a checkbox and that’s all you’re doing. There’s no free think there.

[00:54:05] Megan: Yeah. And we also have become so brave hiding behind these screens. Yes, right now we are the most hyper connected as a world that we’ve ever been. But yet we’re also so alone because it’s so easy to hide behind the screen.

[00:54:17] Megan: We’re just talking about this last night. My husband and I out to dinner, seeing families with the phones. No one’s talking. No one’s engaging with each other. And that has become such a societal norm. The

[00:54:30] Ryan: parents are doing the

[00:54:31] Megan: same thing, not just kids. The parents are doing this and the parents are doing the same thing.

[00:54:34] Megan: So one thing that has been very powerful. In our relationship is that we sit down and do dinner. Now it looks different every night, but we sit down, we do dinner, we put the phones down and we talk about our days. What was your high? What was your low? And it allows me to decompress from a day where I feel like I’ve had to been on and hustle and do the things.

[00:54:56] Megan: So it allows me to connect with myself, but it allows me to connect with my husband, be in the moment. And again, I think it’s just back to the small little things that you can do in a day that can make you feel more grounded. And it also change how you show up as an entrepreneur. Yeah.

[00:55:14] Ryan: How about show up in life in general?

[00:55:16] Megan: There is, and I love that there is. So I, when I look back and I think about when I really had to do this analysis of my life, how I got here. I thought, okay your life is like a six dresser drawer, right? So you have your job, your career. You have your spirituality, whatever that is, you have your self worth, you have finances, you have your relationships, you have your health.

[00:55:42] Megan: And when I looked at that drawer, I thought, oh my God, no wonder. I feel so depleted my career is run over, but everything else is empty. . And I think when you’re able to, in that morning, when you make the commitment of, it was one thing I can do that can make me happy for those that are in the audience thinking yes, like my business has become my identity and it’s who I am.

[00:56:02] Megan: And I’m so focused on it, that all of these other things underneath the glacier, my relationships, my health, how I feel about my body, my finances, all of it, my relationships, they’ve all gone to the wayside. When you start to just make one little commitment every day to maybe make the time to meet with the friend, even if it’s just a phone call in the car.

[00:56:26] Megan: If you take a moment to open the credit card bill, even though it’s terrifying and just open it and look at it, that’s a huge accomplishment. Yes. If you lay some, your sneakers for 20 minutes, 20 minutes and walk around the block, that’s a huge accomplishment. When you start to fill these other drawers in your life, that’s when everything starts to really change.

[00:56:48] Ryan: It does. It’s amazing when you can start realizing the things that are controlling your life, push ’em back and get refocused. Find that passion your life starts changing and it’s monumental. At least for me, it was. And I’m sure it is for others. And it’s, it is for you, you know what we’ve been going on for over an hour already?

[00:57:06] Ryan: Oh my gosh. Yeah. And we’ve been we’ve put out a lot of nuggets this has been such a great conversation. We could go on for hours. So th that tells me at some point, I need to find a way to get you back on and we can have a longer conversation or another conversation, or maybe we do some type of webinar or something.

[00:57:23] Ryan: I don’t know. I think of crazy things on the fly. What is the best way the listeners can get ahold of you through your website? Yeah.

[00:57:29] Megan: So if they just go to Megan, M E G a N hyphen Miller, M I L E r.com. That’s everything. They can get the Instagram community, they can get the journal downloads, join our micro step Monday newsletter all of it lives there.

[00:57:43] Megan: So please come and be a part of the tribe and describe to Ryan’s podcast. If you haven’t it. I just, I love, I, like I told you earlier, I’ve been listening all week to your content and you have some. Great powerful conversation. So if you haven’t subscribed to this podcast with Ryan check that X the check mark and join because there’s some really great stuff.

[00:58:09] Megan: You do, Ryan.

[00:58:10] Ryan: Thank you. It’s passion. I love it. And I get to meet guests like you and connecting more dots. There’s just other things. I always tell the guests that at some point our pass will cross again. Will do something. Yes, it always does. It’s love it just crazy.

[00:58:23] Ryan: What happens out. Megan, thank you for coming on the show. I’m honored. It’s been a healthy, wonderful full of nuggets conversation, and we’ll definitely circle back around and get you back on.

[00:58:34] Megan: Oh Ryan. Thank you. It was great to be

[00:58:36] Ryan: here. You’re more than welcome. I hope you enjoy your vacation cause I know you’re recording this on the road, so thank you for doing that.

[00:58:44] Ryan: And you have a good labor day weekend.

[00:58:46] Megan: You got it. Carry on with intention.

[00:58:49] Ryan: thank you.

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